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Hon. Geo. E. Foster 


Sir Wilfrid Laurier 

Speech Delivered at 
St. P«Hl'« ttaU, Toronto, Oct. iBth, 1904 









Hon. George E. Foster, the Conservative candidate for 
Nortli Toronto, literally electrified an audience that packed 
St. Paul's Hall on Saturday night. The ex-Finance Minister 
may i...e addressed largor gatherings, but certainly none that 
were more enthusiastic or more responsive. In a masterly 
speech of about two hours he replied to Si: Wilfrid Laurier's 
Massey Hall address of the night before. Those who hav.- 
heard him before declare that he was never more effective, 
lucid or convincing, and it was to believe tlum. 

The Prime Minister's abandoned pledges, his boast that 
his Government had made Canada a nation, and that the 
prosperity she now enjoyed was due to the Liberal Govern- 
ment, incidentall- to Providence, were all dealt with by Mr. 
Foster in a manner that evoked round after round of applause 
and carried conviction to tho minds of his hearers. 

But it was in dealing with the Grand Trunk Pacific deal 
that Mr. Foster was most effective. He devoted the greater 
part of his speech to that quej'irn and exhibited a grasp 
of the intricaf.ics of the whole scheme that was nothing short 
of remarkable. He spoke entirely without the aid of notes, 

and the way in which he dealt with every phase of the queition 
was evidence of the thorough and Intimate knowledge he has 
regarding it. " *' 

Hoik Ocorge E. ,.-os,„ ^^3 ^^^.^^^ ^.^^^ ^^^^ applause, 
and said: Mr. Chairman, Ladies and Gcntlemen-I must say 
ill the hrst place, that, although I have been a good many in politics and have had hearty and willing testimonies, 
o tentimes much too favorable to me. expressed upon public 

.'ertimri^r.' •'"''' ''°°'' ' ''='^= "°' "' "»"""' any 
test menial which is so unexpected and so unsolicited and 
«• hearty as that which our friend. Mr. J. K. Macdonald 
known to you much better than he is to mysei.' personally 
has been kind enough to give to me to-night. (Applause.) 
Amidst all the hard knocks and unpleasant things that a 
public man has to face and put up with a, good-naturedly 
and as smilingly as he can, it is some compensation to have 
a estimonial given to one by a gentleman who has simply 
watched his course unknown entirely to himself, and who is 
able to express so strong an endorsement so frankly as Mr 
Macdonald has to-night. (Applause.) Now. for the time 
that we can profitably spend together to-night. I want to go 
straight to my subject and treat it as plainly as I possibly c^. 
Th« Procession of Bribers 
In the first place, let me remark that the unsavory proces- 
sion swells with every public meeting that is held by our 
friends tne enemy, and from the perusal of every morning 
paper published in their interests-the procession of aspiring 
candidates who think the proper thing to do in orde- to 
ingratiate themselves with the electors of Canada is to wave 
the old flag in one hand, if advisable, but certainly to wave 
in the other the appropriation which they have been promised, 
by telegram or otherwise, fresh from some Cabinet Minister 
or his responsible agent (Laughter.) Our good friend Mr 
Urquhart thought that the proper thing to do on his first 
appearance before this constituency of North Toronto, and the 
magic words "All right," signed by Sir Wilfrid Uurier. were 
flashed on the curtain. Mr. Eastwood, the Liberal candidate 

ill the City of 'amiltoii, unuer the very eye of Sir Wilfrid 
l-aurier, read a telegram from a Government engini r saying 
that preliminaries were all ready for letting the contract for 
the bay front. (Laughter.) I notice that a gentleman by the 
name of Marcil, in the Province of Quebec, got a lap ahead, 
for he took a real live engineer with him down to his con 
slituency and exhibited him ' efore the people as the man 
sent from Ottawa to see luat sundry public works were 
uudci taken as quickly as possible. (Uughter.) And, lastly, 
the baby member of the Cabinet, our good friend Mr. Ayles- 
worth, whose enfr ce into politics was hailed by his friend 
the editor of the jv nvs as being a happy augury of a higher 
and purer type of political life, had nothing better to do on his 
lirst appearance in Durham than to read a 'ong letter from 
Sir Wilfrid Laurier promising that what he asked would 
be done, namely, to have the ait of the Trent Canal ter- 
minus for Port Hope held oi as temptingly as possible to 
the people of Port Hope w:...out driving away the other 
aspiring towns desirous of getting the same Trent Valley 
communication to their own ports, and in it Sir Wilfrid was 
happy and glad to say : 'If what I promise iu now is not 
enough, please remember that on your re nmendatior. I 
have a whole box full of promises in store w.nch I will hand 
out to you.' (Laughter and applause.) A sorry business, 
tl'.is, conducted with the knowledge and in the presence of 
Cabhiet Min'sters of a Government which attained power 
under a pledge to the people that such practices were wrong, 
and should at once cease. ' 

A Personal Rsferenee 
Now. before I go into the main subject to-night, will 
you pardon me for troubling you with a bit of petty personal 
canvass? I do not often indulge in it; but a gentleman met 
me the other day and asked me how long I had lived in 
Toronto, and he was very much surprised indeed when he 
found that I had been living here for three or four years, 
that I had my family here, that I pay my taxes here, and that 
I carry on my business here— and a pretty important business 

it is. (Hear, hear.) He was led to believe that within the 
last six weeks or so I had been imported from the Maritime 
Provinces to rim in the constituency of North Toronto. 
Now, I think it is just as well that it should be known that 
I am a citizen of Toronto, and consequently not amenable 
to a petty canvass of that kind. (Hear, hear.) Mr, Urquhart 
himself has seen tit to create a prejudice, if he can, in the 
minds of the people of North Toronto, and in that he is 
diligently helped by some good Grit newspapers by saying 
in sundry ways and in divers places that I am a man who 
has beer driven out of the east and has come for shelter thus 
far- on my journey "westward. (Laughter.) Well, let us see 
exactly what it means. I went into politics, gentlemer in 
the year 1882; I ran in the County of King's, N.J., five 
different elections, always against the same opponent, and 
always had a good working majority. (Applause.) After 
the five elections I severed my connections with that county, 
not at their wish nor altogether at my own wish, but for a 
reason that I thought was strong enough from 3 party stand- 
point of view to lead me to do it. I went to the metropolitan 
constituency of New Brunswick, and I carried an election 
there, worsting mj opponent nearly two to one. (Hear, hear 
and cheers.) That made my sixth election. When the elec- 
tions of 1900 came around, Sir Charles Tupper, in looking 
over the ground, thought that it would be good policy for 
myself and for Hugh John Macdonald to attack the Ministers 
iu their strongholds. I was not cowardly, and I said, "Very 
well, I will follow your advice," and instead of sheltering 
myself behind entrenchments In three different constituencies 
which were offered me, and were safe for me, I took my 
chief's orders, and I went to the stronghold of the enemy, 
and I fought my battle there— (applause)— and I fell. 
Thereafter I came to the City of Toronto and went 
into business here, and at the call of my party I met 
all the forces of the Phillistines, including Sir William Jlylock, 
up in North Ontario— (laughter)— and suffered a defeat in 
a bye-election for several reasons. One was that $SO,000 

of hard cash was spent ag^ainst me. (A voice, 'Gracious! ) 
Another was that two Governments with their patronage 
were in the field against me, and the other was that I un- 
fortunately became ill, and for the last four weeks of the 
contest I had the poor satisfaction of lying on my back on 
bed in my own house, whilst the fight went on. Under 
those conditions I did not win. This is just a little 
of the history of my public life, to show you that I am not 
altogether a wanderer upon the face of the earth politically. 
(Hear, hear and cheers.) Several very prominent men in 
the public life of Canada have, been defeated in political con- 
tests before my time. (Hear, hear.) Anyway we are about 
large enough now iii the Dominion of Canada to take the 
position, that if a constituency wishes a man to run as its 
candidate it has a perfect right to take any Canadian it 
desires-(hear, hear)-and a Canadian is always at home 
within the bounds of our common country. (Hear, hear and 

A Ohallense for Urquhart 
I notice that my opponent, Mr. Urquhart, last night, after 
having made sundry kindly allusions to me, rather intimated 
that being an "'apostle of political purity," as he sneer.ngly 
remarked, I had better go down to New Brunswick and think 
over my corrupt acts in the Province of New Brunswick 
Tring the time that I was there. Now, Mr. Urquhart can 
«ay that on the platform, or he can whisper it about the 
streets; all that I have to say to Mr. Urquhart in that respect 
is- "You are a man with a tongue in your head and a 
reputation to keep or lose; come on any platform in North 
Toronto, side by side with me, and put your finger o" ""^ 
corrupt act of which I have been guilty in my public life, any 
dishonest act in my private life of forty y""-^'""^ =!L""\- 
prove it right to the people, to the electors of North Toronto 
"hat are deciding between us, and you wiU "ave ^ plendid 
advamage if yuu can thus floor me before the electors, Euner 
I will go to his meeting or he may come to mine but. for 
pity's sake, let him stop his men going around the streets and 

alleys whispering things with reference to myself, that they dare 
not say in the open. (Hear, hear.) We are two men who 
can fight this out in the open before the electors of this North 
Riding of Toronto, and I for my part am quite willing to say 
to Mr. Urquhart; "Come, let us put aside private canvass, 
and you and I will make our^ public canvass together before 
the business men, before the students, before the electors 
of this district of North Toronto; make it on the public plat- 
form together, where we can both be side by side, and where 
the electors can judge between us." I think that is a fair 
proposition to make. (Hear, hear and cheers.) Will Mr. 
Urquhart accept it? 

The Good Time at Maesey Hall 

Now, Mr. Chairman, they had over at Massey Hall last 
night, as the Boston girl would say, an "elegant" time. 
(Laughter.) I don't think any happier lot of people seemingly 
ever got together in any one place before, if you have regard 
to the demonstrations, to the speeches, and to the reports 
in the Globe of this morning. But there is this thing to be 
said, they had an equally good time in 1896; they had an 
equally good time in 1891; and in 1891 and in 1896 the result 
in the City of Toronto was about the same — they had a good 
time, but the Conservatives got the votes. (Cheers.) Now, 
the people of Toronto are a kindly people; they like to give 
a man a good reception, take him in — in a hospitable kind 
of way. (Laughter.) They like to hear a man use mellifluous 
language, be it even somewhat rhetorical, and they have a 
certain admiration for a picturesque figure. (Laughter.) 
They enjoy all that, and give a hearty reception to one who 
gives them all that, but when it comes right down to business 
the Toronto people are level-headed — (hear, hear)— they size 
up the position and they make up their minds upon it sensibly 
and pretty thoroughly. (Hear, hear.) That is the reason 
why Sir Wilfrid always has had, and always will have, a good 
reception in the City of Toronto, and that is why, after it is 
over, the business men in the City of Toronto will go about 
their own work in their own way without paying very much 

attention to what he has said. (Hear, hear and laughter.) 
There is another reason for this. 

The Man of Fads 

In 1891 and in 1896 Sir Wilfrid Laurier was just as eloquent 
on the boards at Massey Hall. Each time he had a different 
set of schemes, a different policy, and for each one he was 
equally eloquent, in 1891 and in 1896. But time passed after 
1891, and when it came up to 1896, lo, and behold, the schemes 
and policies about which he so eloquently spoke in 1891 had 
been relegated to the background, had been found imprac- 
ticable, and had been left with the wreckage on the shore. 
The Unrestricted Reciprocity Fad 
In 1891 he stood upon the platform at Massey Hall and 
argued for a brand-new policy. You remember what it was. 
It was unrestricted trade with the United States of America, 
coupled with discrimination against the goods and imports 
from Great Britain and the British colonies. (Hear, hear.) 
That was the flag under which he fought; that was the flag 
that he nailed to the masthead. That is the flag in the advo- 
cacy of which he declared that we never could be reasonably 
prosperous until we had such a treaty with the United States 
of America; while Sir Richard Cartwright, his lieutenant, 
declared that the trade with the United States was worth to 
us more than the trade of all other countries put together, 
and that we could never work out our commercial salvation 
until we had unrestricted reciprocity with the United States 
of America. Now, he could not be more eloquent last night 
in support of his new scheme than he was in 1891 in support 
of the then scheme. He met with a iine reception in Toronto 
in 1891 because of his eloquence. He was given the same 
last night. But the people do not forget that the thing which 
he said was all-important and absolutely right in 1891, he and 
his whole party had been obliged to abandon within five short 
years. (Cheers.) Therefore it is that the electors of the City 
of Toronto, though they listen with pleasure, n.ake up their 
minds in the light of tacts that become patent as time rolls 



The 1896 Platform 

In 1896 lie appeared again; again he was most rhetorical; 
again he was picturesque in his language, eloquent in his 
periods. He had another plan and policy then. What was it? 
He pleaded with the electors o{ Toronto to put him into power 
so that he might relieve the terrible burden of taxation that 
was weighing down this people, and, as Sir Richard Cart- 
wright remarked, "bleeding the people of this country white." 
lie lifted up his eloquent voice in tremendous strength and 
vehemence against the outrageous expenditures of this country, 
and he declared, without reservation, that if he were put in 
power he would make those expenditures from three to live 
millions less. He said there was something this country 
needed and might have, and that he was the very man who 
could get it if he were put in power. What was that? 
The Mutual Prwrerenee Pledc* 

Preferential trade relations with Great Britain. Now, I 
think that is so important that I am going to read you exactly 
what he said in 1896, at London, Ont., and he repeated the 
substance of it in Toronto: 

" Now, the statesmen of Great Britain have thought that the 
Governments of the colonies have come to a time when a new 
step can be taken in their development. What is that? That 
there should be a commercial agreement between England and 
the colonies. That practical statesman, Mr. Joseph Chamberlain, 
has come to the conclusion that the time has come when it is 
possible to have within the bounds of the Empire a new step 
taken which will give to the colonies in England a preft ence for 
their products over the products of other nations." 

That is what it was. No one-sided preference; it was 
a preference in England for the goods of the colonies. And 
he says : 

" What would the possibilities of such a step be if it were 
taken ? We sell our goods in England ; wc send our wheat, our 
butter, our cheese, all our natural products, but there we have 
to compete with similar products from the United States, from 
Russia, and from other nations. Just see what an advantage it 
would be to Canada if the wheat, cheese and butter which we 
would send to England should be met in England with a prefer- 

£;i7',^.:;.;srt" - •" '"'"^ •>" •*' -• 

could have that boom. 

And then he says : j r , „. 

.. My hope is^nay, my conviction is that on '»« ^jrl o^ n- 
the Liberal ^arty «».' '•^,''' ' .fcv'of rev^uf ariff. thl" will send 
'c'^/.'JSrrt^rirn r^^^^^^^^^^^^^ basis or preferential 

'"now. he advocated that with the same rhetorical and 

elected. They had a session of Parliament. 

Mutual Preference Performance 

nXt meeting was in Liverpool and the first speech that 
he made upon this matter was as follows; 

..I claim for the present Government of C^-d^^^^^^^^^^ 
have passed a resolution by which »"« P™f "«^]« ° ^^„,., „ext 
are admitted on the rate ,<?' "^^'.^ ""^e ha e done, not asking 
year at .5 P" cent. :_ed"'=".on- Th s ,e .i_^ f^„„„.,;,„,„3 „.ho 
any compensation. There is a Lias ^^ 

ask that all such concessions should be ^^''^ '^"^^^.S^^^^,. We 
The Canadian Government has J"f f /" ^t^Jj^ ,„ Great Britain, 
have done it be. ause we owe a ^^^fj^^'Tonrs to disturb in 
We have done it because it is "° '"'';" 1°"^°^ do„e so much for 
any way the system of free trade «hich has ._^ .it^je 

Englani. What we give ''y ""^'^"if'^^^r? prospering It is a 

-Tyf. ^:Ztp\:iZl^^ inir. L-r what weakens you 
must weaken us. 

In 1896 they had heard his declarations in Massey Hall. 
There were his promises; here was his performance Now, 
when he spoke to an audience of Toronto people last night, they 
remembered that in 1896 he was just as thoroughly in earnest 
about these questions of taxation, of expenditure, of mutual 
preferential trade, and of the expurgation of every 
of protection from our tariff as he was last night with refet- 
ence to his Grand Trunk Pacific scheme They knew per- 
fectly well how he acted on these since 1896, and as they 
listened to him last night they said . "Oh, this is a new thing 
to canvass with, that's all; ii ill go just as far but no fur- 
ther than his 1891 and his 1896 propaganda went; it is a plat- 
form to get in on, but not to stand on after he has got in. 

Amusins Sldelishta 
There were numerous and picturesque sidelights in the 
proceedings of last night at Massey Hall. As I read the re- 
ports in the Globe this morning I had to rub my eyes to see 
if I was awake or not. (Laughter.) There sat, if not m 
body yet in spirit, the good old Sir Richard Cartwr.ght; his 
body absent but his spirit right there in the front of the plat- 
form (Laughter.) There was the Hon. William Paterson, 
there was Sir William Mulock, there were other old and steady 
lights of the party. Yet would you believe it that m the 
mottoes around the room there were such as these: Look 
at the t?'l chimneys," "Observe our giant industries ? Why, 
if Sir Rich^/d had been there in the flesh he certainly must 
have risen and said: "Tall chimneys ?"-what he said before 
and said so often, what Sir Wilfrid said, what they all said. 
"Tall chimneys," they are the devices of the monopolists. 
Giant industries? They are the hiding places of the robbers 
great and the robbers small," whence they issue to feed upon 
the hard gathered earning of the poor. You to-night, Bels- 
hazzar-like, overjoying yourselves in the fruits of a protective 
policy "accursed of God and man," when all your lifetime 
you have been calling it the "bane and th curse of Canada. 

and cheers.) J^osewer. queer -<>; 'f ^^•„,^,::;;, in.,,,1 
pose that on the election mght of 1896 a go ^^ ^^^ 

gent Liberal, filled with the ^^y *"^°' , . jj^ the idea of 
freedom from taxation =',"'» ,'";"°P°'^\ "i'^^i.d'l^Iy with the 
the honesty of his leader's P'eds^ - ^'"j '=^;';'= ^^ddenly lapsed 
excitement of "'*« ^^"^^^W^^^^^^^^ life, and in 
irto unconsciousness lost ^'^ ~ f ^^^, ^ o'clock had 
a long trance from 1896 till last mgni psychological 

lain oblivious, and then *r°uf ;°"= ~ ^ P^^/.i.i^ing 
inauence there had been ^''^"Vln and he waked up sud- 
breath of another Launer campaign ^^^ ^'J^jj,^,.; Hall, 
denly and found himseH ^"^a fr nt^b-h at_^^^^^^ V 

could you analyse the *">'"f °' ' . ^^jung the National 
he went to sleep ^ey we- ™ -. ^^g^^^ ^^ ^^^^^^ 

Policy, protection, tall '='"'""'/'' ^'%^„s he listens, every 
and big expenditures, and now he gazes _^^^^ 

moment his atu^zement 8'°'^'"/s.»^iY,; eight years ago, 
looks like the man ^ey "1 ed Sir Wilfr d g y ^.^^.^^ 

and 1 think those are the ^«''>"J^f,7„'f,„,y voice of the 
Muiock. and surely that '\*« ^/^"/'^Vwhat on earth has 
Hon. William Paterson. (L^"K»»«> ^^ „{ j^cob, but the 

happened? >^""'V oVes^u " ^reat a^^^^^^^^ ' ^"^^ 
hands are the hands of Esau. J^''^^^^^^,^^ to get his 
any man m such a s'tuat.on, atte .^^^ 

bearings, would have =°f "/'t^JLand wait for another 
another trance-Crenewed l^^f Well, there were other 
turn in the wh.rhng of PoLt'cs. ^e^ ^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^, 
sidelights. They are talkmg about the m ^^,^^ 

rails. They wished to f ' /"^^^ j'"".!^! "„ever made steel 
they had constructed, and t^ey said ^^^ ^^^ 

rails in this country ""til we go into powe ^^ 

did they come_ to be -='^^,f "/;„,? roundly denoi " 

- V ^riX-^tirou mos? ro^'iidi; denounced 
paying heavy *'°"^-«'/^;7 /( ^hich they are made, and 

every steel rail that comes into this country. (Hear, hear ) 
Why that IS surely rank, double-dyed Tory protection ! Those 

robbers great and robbers small" who manufacture steel rails 
have a prohibitive duty and a great big bounty both together 
given by the very men who denounced both. So I say these 
sidelights were instructive. But what must Sir Wilfrid 
l^urier have felt when this youngest aspirant to Parlia- 
mentary honors, Mr. Robinette. bluntly declared two things 
.n as many English words: "We don't want any reciprocify 
treaty with the United States, good,' bad or indifferent; i^ 
leads us into political affiliation, makes us dependent for 
OUT commercial progress on their whims or their prejudice . 

•?;,'.;! tt". T ""'' '" "' ■"=" "° -"O™ "bout recprocity 
indeed t Tl ''"■''" u"^'^' '"=" ""'^' "-* seemed'harsh' 

eci^rth r7r\''!'° "'■''" "P '^^ «"« °f "nrestricted 
reciprocity and pledged himself to stay in Opposition till it 

rild "m r- ^"' '"'" '"=" "^-^ hardly cooled before 
iLtrt.^ r "^""V" *-'""<''' '^ '° ■""'''= everything 

that Canada uses here m the country itself, and if we cannot 

to do' i-.° TV, 7"^ "" """'' «"' '^' Government to aid us 
\,SJr J ." f'"^ '""""K protection-couldn't b. 
s ronger. .Hear, hear.) And that, too, in the hearing of the 
oM stalwarts who fought and bled, but did not die in defenc^ 

market ■''Td'her"'t>;" "' ''''""' ^"^ "" '" '"« '"^-' 
market. And here these young aspirants, these exponents of 

th new creed, right in the face of all their leaders of the 

past, stand up and say these unwholesome and unpalatable 

hnftoi ",'.''" l ^"^ ^'- Aylesworth had to say some- 
thing, too, and he said with regard to protection, that it was not 
a ques ion now of whether we shu-ild have free tride or 
protection. Free trade was impossible. It was not even a 
question as between revenue tariff and protection. Thalwas 
also played out. The only difference, he says, between The 
two parties is as to whether the protection 'shall bThlghe 

han ,t IS or whether it shall not be made higher. TheToim 

again, and then he waved the old flag finely-did it well, 

did it splendidly — but he didn't {orget to wave the promise 

uf an appropriation alongside of the old flag. (Laughter.) 

Aylcsworth to th« Rasou* 

And then the delightfully •inocent way in which Mr. Aylen- 
worth detailed the reasons for his being almost forced into the 
Cabinef Sir Wilfrid would not take no for an answer. Why? 
The party majority in Ontario had dwindled into an ever- 
decreasing minority. In vain the Cartwrighls, the Mulocks, 
the Patersons, the Sutherlands, and the Hymans had thmi- 
<lereU and volleyed. The enemy's forces grew in strengtli 
and boldness until at last the mighty Aylesworth was implored 
to come to the aid of the weaklings and gird on his battle 
armor and lift his mighty sword and save the day. It is not 
recorded that Sir William swore a mighty oath. At least 
the Globe editor did not catch it. Well, after these little 
preliminaries had taken place Sir Wilfrid commenced to 
speak. I cull one statement for analysis. He went on to say 
that in 1896 and in 1900 a new era davirned in this country, 
a new party was in power. Now, he felt that he (.ould not 
gracefully pass Providence by entirely, so he paid a little 
compliment to Providence, and then he went on to .say that, 
after all, this country is what it is because they had been 
in power. 

Criticism and Construction 

He said : "It is easy for people to criticize, but it is very 
difficult for people to construct. The Tories are the men who 
criticize; we are the men who construct." Now, that bases 
so wide and so frequei,i an assertion in thib contest that it 
is worth while asking yout attention to it for a few moments. 
It is easy to criticize, said Sir Wilfrid ; it is hard to construct. 
If any man ought to be a judge of the former it should be 
Sir Wilfrid. He was 18 years in Opposition, and his career 
was one long criticism. (Laughter.) He had been seven 
years in power, and we will see by-and-by whai. '... has con- 

An Absurd Assumption 

But the point I want to draw your attention to is basic 

and historical. He says the Tories ca.i criticize, but they 
cannot construct, .^nd in the next sentence he goes on as 
follows : 

" Canada's prcfient ponition is due altogether to measures 
which have been devi.ted and enacted by the present (5overn- 
meiit." (A voice -Oh !) 

Have you that deep into your minds? I am going to read 
it again, becau-e I think you ought to have it sunk right down 
into your brain : 

"Canada's present po.sition is due aUogelher to measures 
which have been devised and enacted by the present (lovem- 

Now, was Sir Wilfrid really serious when he made that 
statement? Or was he running a race for the champion joker 
of the Dominion of Canada? (Laughter.) If Sir Wilfrid 
can get a piciuresque phrase, out it comes; he doesn't seem 
to care whether it has any meaning or not. Now, this is a 
phrase which is positive and inclusive; let us test it. I say 
to Sir Wilfrid: "You say your measures huve brought 
Canada to where she is to-day; that we simply for eighteen 
years criticized, and are doing it yet, but that we were not 
constr jctive. Come, now, let us see where we stand in this 
matter. When did you come into power? In 1896. 

Wha OoRsarvatives Did 

"What did you find in Canada when you came into power 
in 1896? You found a Canada imited from ocean to ocean, 
and a great West opened up by a magnificent line of com- 
munication. (Applause.) Two lines of double steel running 
from Halifax and St. John to the great port of Montreal, 
one every inch on Canadian territory, the other with its 
affluents and branches in Quebec, and in the Province of 
Ontario, passing out to the north of Lake Superior, opening 
into Winnipeg, and then like a great grid-iron cove.-ing South- 
ern and Middle Manitoba down to the United States border 
with railway communication of such a nature that to-day 
no man can put his heel down on an inch of soil m Southern 
Manitoba and be more than eight miles away from a railroad 

track— (Hear, hear and cheers)— going out along that main 
line of road, you branch off at Regina and wind northeast 
to Prince Albert, you branch off again and wind up to Saska- 
toon; you branch o£F to Lethbridge and wind through the 
mountains to British G>lumbia into the heart of its coal and 
silver fields; you branch off at C iry and wind two hundred 
miles north into a country face to face with the Peace River 
District ; you wind across the mountains and down to the blue 
waters of the Pacific, and all the way you found an opened, de- 
veloped irderly and prosperous country. That is what you 
found, Sir Wilfrid, when you came in; and you ought to be 
generous enough at least lo give credit to the men who were 
building up Canada when you were a baby in arms; yes, and 
who lived and worked and built this great road, when you with 
voice and pen were fighting f'e builders. (Loud cheers.) 
What else did you find in 18S6? You found a Canadian 
Northern Railway, which was begun and was being worked 
out by two Canadians — Mackenzie and Mann — who, commenc- 
ing vithout capital, by sheer pluck and enterprise, laid ihe 
foundations of a second great trans-continental system. You 
found this Canadian Northern Railway nearly opened down 
to the lakes, stretching ip to Winnipeg, and thence west and 
southwest, going away north to Dauphin, away northwest 
along the old Manitoba and North-Western Line, and heading 
northwest far on its way towards Edmonton, sweeping along 
year after year, and mile by mile. You found in the old pro- 
vinces and in Canada 16,000 miles of railway, 1.3,000 of which 
had been built entirely under Conservative Administration, 
that is what you found. (Hear, hear and cheers.) — running 
into onr towns, our cities, our villages, through our rural 
districts, gathering up the produce of the people for export, 
and taking into the people the wares that they wished for their 
comfort and their well being. 

Independence on the Lakes 

"You found more, sir. You found that the problem of that 
independence of the United States, so newly dear to you, had 
been solved, even against your wishes — (hear, hear) — for the 


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Liberal-Conservative Government, when they found that they 
were at the mercy of their neighbori on the great lakes 
built the Sault Ste. Marie Canal, and so made it possible for 
the great West to send out its teeming produce by channels 
every fot.t on Canadian soil and through Canadian waters 
(Cheers.) You found a canal system in Nova Scotia, in 
Quebec, along the St. Lawrence, in Ontario, upon which fifty 
or sixty millions of money had been spent, almost entirely 
completed— as to its depth entirely completed— and all that 
yot: have done sincr has been limited to finishing, painting 
repairs, and some little extension. (Hear, hear and cheers. >' 
Well, sir, you found more than that. 

Oemmn rrmnmpcrt 

There was a widespread and magnificent mechanism and 
machinery for transportation in Canada itself, but the country 
needed mou, and had more. 

"Sir Wilfrid, you found when you came into power in 1896 
that the stream of traffic was taken up at Victoria and Van- 
couver, where the land recedes from the sea, by the splendid 
Heet of the Canadian Pacific Railvay, running to Jr ■ and 
China, ana contract for which service was entered and 

which was subsidized and put into operation when • lyself 
was Minister of Finance, and before you came into )wer 
(Cheers.) Running out from the very same ports you lound 
a line of .steamers going to the Australasian colonies and New 
Zealand, the contract for which was made in my time and 
signed by myself, and the subsidies for which were voted in 
Parliament as I brought them down. (Cheers ) You will 
remember, too, that you opposed them then. You went down 
to the Maritime Provinces, and from St. John and Halifax 
you found steam vessels going to the West Indies and to 
South America. You found also, sir, in your desk when you 
came into office a contract completed ind ready to be signed 
for a fast Atlantic service, (ftear, and loud cheers) 
If you had signed it we should have had a fast Atlantic ser- 
vice going Ml the year 1900 or before, and would have been 
to-day immeasnreably farther al,«d than we are. (Hear, 

hear. ) You tried your criticizing process on that ; you picked 
the timbers apart ; you chopped the remains of it into useless 
lumber, and with all your boasted constructive powers you 
have never been able to construct anything to take its place. 

Oen««rv«tlv«« and tha Wurmtng Indtivtry 

You found more than that. It is a bad habit that your 
Minister of Agriculture has of trying to make people think 
that he has done everything for the farmers — that is when he 
is not busy about military affairs. (Hear, hear, laughter 
and cheers.) To hear him talk on a public platform one would 
think there had been nothing done for the farmers before he 
came into power. Sir Wilfrid, be honest now, tell us what 
you found in that matter when you came in in 1806. You 
found every experimental farm established and working in 
Canada that is working to-day. You found Dr. Saunders 
and Prof. Robertson — two great, grand, good men that we 
have had as our dairying and farming experts — you found 
them there to become your trusted advisors as they 
had been our trusted advisors. You found the but- 
ter and cheese industries aided by Parliament, and 
the cheese industry so far ahead that it took the palm in the 
British market. You found cold storaj^e arranged for on 
the railways of this country and in the steamship i.hat went 
from here to the Old Country across the Atlantic. All 
those things you found, and yet you say: "All that makes 
Canada what she is to-day arises out of the measures that 
we have brought in since we came into power." (Laughter 
and cheers.) 

Canadian Industries 

What more did you find. Sir Wilfrid? Why, you found 
this, sir : Yoii found a wide system of Canadian industry 
established in this country at the very date you came in, 
with an invested capital of $400,000,000, a yearly output of 
$.''>00,000,000, within whose walls and amongst whose machin- 
ery 300,000 pairs of Canadian arms worked every day, and frotn 

which 300,000 Canadian workers drew $100,000,000 every year 
Z ?.' *^8«. "'hi'^h were paid them. You 'found along with 
A.S the skill, the enterprise, the experience, the deftness of hand 
the knowledge of one's own countr/s needs, the adaptation 

fo Jd /"w"?* . '° "i' *'"'' °* ""= """'^y-:"! that you 
found, Sr Wdfrid, and you, who accuse us of being mere 
critics, tell me what single stick of timber, what single stone 
or brick, you put into the construction of all that immense 
and wide system that I have just described. (Hear, hear 
and cheers.) You fought the Canadian Pacific; you trted 
to rouse the country against it. (Hear, hear.) You fought 
he establishment of Canadian industries; you declared them 
to be a robbery and an outrage upon the country. You fought 
and criticized every one of those appropriations that I brought 
down for steamship services-you and Sir Richard Cart- 
wright and Mr. David Mills, and your other trusted lieuten- 
ants There was not a measure that I have spoken of that 
for 18 long years, whichever one was up, you did not criticize 
and oppose. And yet you have the extreme hardihood to 
come here, in Massey Hall, and in the face of an intelligent 
peopl,, utter these words: 'Canada's present position is due 
altogether to measures which have been devised and enacted 
by the present Government.' (Laughter.) If you were really 
serious Sir Wilfrid, in that statement, you should be ashamed 
Of It If you are not serious, go up to the head. Sir Wilfrid 
for there is no joker can take the prize away from you in 
all Canada. (Great laughter.) y "> 

What the Crits Have Constructed 

Now, you have been in power for seven years. Sir Wil- 
frid; what have you constructed in those seven years? Please 
trot It out. (Uughter.) Just leave words aside for a momen 
bring out the substance; you 'have been churning the froth 
long enough. What have you constructed?" 

The Yukon Abortion 

I did fit ,t up m my inside Cabinet, and I thought it was a 

■J- ■■ It 


tidy bit of Cabinet work. Behind closed doors, without any 
intimation that the people wanted it, without a single petition 
from anywhere, without inviting competition, without admit- 
ting people who, having heard that I was trying for something 
like that, wanted to have a chance to tender for the service, 
behind closed doors I made a hard and fast contract with 
Mackenzie and Mann for building 150 miles between the 
Stikeen River and the Teslin Lake, between two great ice 
cakes in winter, and whose Pacific approach during summer 
was along a passageway of water, which was most difficult 
and almost impracticable for freights. I signed the contract. 
I knew I had to bring it before Parliament before it 
would be operative, but ten days before Parliament opened 
I gave orders to Mackenzie and Mann, when they suggested 
that this should be settled by Parliament, and that maybe 
they would get themselves into trouble, I told them to go on 
and work, that I would see it through Parliament.' So the- 
started for the ice floes. (Laughter.) Sir Wilfrid brought 
before Parliament the contract .at he had made in the secret 
Cabinet. It was fought in the House, it was destroyed in the 
Senate. They said to us: "You have ruined Canada, with 
your miserable Tory Senate. That was the one thing that 
was necessary for the salvation of Canada and the Yukon; 
you have slaughtered it like an innocent "in all the freshness 
and beauty of its early youth— (laughter)— the sin be upon 
your own heads." But time went quickly, and before Sir 
Wilfrid knew it he had a complete majority in the Senate. 
Now, I call you to witness what happ-ned. They were to pay 
for that 150 miles of road four million acres of picked gold 
lands of the Northwest, besides other considerations. When 
they were stopped in their mad career by command of the 
Senate, a company built a line of railway into the Yukon 
from tidewater to the river, along which you go down by 
uninterrupted water communication to Dawson; they built 
it and ran it, and are running it to this day, and never asked 
the Dominion Government for one single dollar of a subsidy 
with which to build it. (Cheers.) 


Mackenzie and Mann came back to the Government and 
said : "You ordered us to go to work ; we went to work ; 
we have spent a good many hundreds of thousands of dollars ; 
pay us back." And what happened? The Government that 
made a contract they never should have made, one which they 
were so ashamed of afterwards that even though they had 
a majority in the Senate, they never attempted to pass again 
— had to go down into your pockets and from your con- 
tributions to the treasury, take out $34",on() in hard cash and 
pay it over as damages to Mackenzie and Mann. Yes, Sir 
Wilfrid, you are a constructive gentleman — (laughter) — that 
is one thing that you constructed. 

The Fast Atlantic Failure 

What else die you try to construct? You and Sir Richard 
Cartwright got your little hannners and your little saws, and 
you went to work and you declared three dilTerent times that 
you had built, and were ready to launch a fast Atlantic ser- 
vice. We all went to the launching. (Laughter.) We 
waited for the pin to be pulled out. We were looking to see 
some majestic structure glide down the timbers and into the 
water, and like a thing of beauty sail away deeply laden across 
the blue waters to tlie Old Country to bring immigrants 
and bring us wealth. Not a launching ever took place— 
(laughter)— and at this very day, after you have been con- 
structing for eight years, you not only have not got a fast 
Atlantic service, but you have had to rise in the House 
several times and say that it has passed beyond your powers. 
The bottle-nose didn't develop, and the turtle-backs wouldn't 
come to time and the construction was pre-eminently a failure. 
Many things you tried to construct — we cannot take the time 
to go over them, but in brief, what you found in Canada is 
what I have described here to-night. All that you have done 
is simply to extend in some measure, to keep in repair, -nd 
keep going, those great constructive works and that splendid 
machinery of intercourse and transportation which were begun 
and so largely built by the Liberal-Conservatives. Now, 
getitlcmen, don't you think that the leader of a great party 

coming to an intelligent business community such as Toronto 
would have hesitated before he made a statement of that kind, 
would have had some little thought of the- old heroes and 
old days? 

Pioneer Work 

You men that have gray beards and gray heads, what is 
the difference between your work of fifty years ago and the 
work of the young man to-day ? You did pioneer work under 
every disadvantage ; your boy conies up on the smooth streets 
and the easy ways witli schools and churches all about him. 
What is the hardest of all work? It is the pioneer work. 
Shame on the , n that would put his heel down upon the 
r';at work do - by the pioneers of this country, which has 
uiade it a country which wc can boast of to-day and given 
it the splendid machinery of development tliat it has. Shame 
on the man who, to glorify an idle vanity, will set aside all 
the work of the fathers long since dead— the Browns, the 
Mackenzies, the Dorions, Sir John Macdonald, Sir George 
E. Cartier, and all the strong men that have lived and moved 
with mighty force in this country, doing a work for Canada 
which enables a man to-day to say with honest piidc, "I 
am a Canadian." (Hear, hear and loud cheers.) 

Canada's Name 

Then Sir Wilfrid turned off another phi e. Here it is— 
if you don't believe me search the G/ofcf— (laughter) — 
"Canada in 1896 was a name scarcely ever pronounced be- 
yond our limits"— dov faint now, gentlemen, any of you; 
that is what he really ^did—" to-day it is on the U^^ of the 
luorld." That is a nice sentence; it is antithetical, it is even 
picturesque. Now, because it is picturesque it satisfies Sir 
Wilfrid. It makes no difference whether it is true or not 
true; it is a picturesque phrase, and he blows up the bubble 
and floats it out, and so it delights the gaze of the people, 
he has accomplished his object; he has blown his bubble 


The Reasons Why 

'■PS of .he world. Ther. were two hM" ""'' '' "°^ °" «"« 
no' «.ve. First, we wi„ 7:i: Z\S:'C-. .'i" "' -'" 
Imperial Pref^sr»„ce 
ifte first reason that he gave was th. 
That was one of the thinS Im^^ , '-"^^ P«ference. 
'" be en the lips of the wo"ld Thl ." .f ^"""''"'^ "="»« 
said the other day that we tu„,b,^H "t*^"^^ "**■•• ^°''" 
I did. Never was a tru r "orjl °J! " ""''' P'*f"««=«-" 
applause.) I call Sir VVUfrid h, "^ u"" ^^'"- ^'" -"d 
that bill was going through pfrlfame:/ /h "■'"''^- ^''" 
speech upcn it say that the motto '^,/',^ ^°" "°' '" y""' 
was now widened, and hereforth f ' ^"' *"' Canadians- 
commerce of the ;or"d '-no tt """ ^'"'"^" ^°' '''e 
alone, but the commerce of the wor d"T; °[ ^"=" ^"'-' 
Mm.ster. Mr. Fielding, say "I Zl„, ,°"' "°' J"-"- finance 
a preference for En^nd f is a^.f T *^'" '^'^ « "« 
of the world that will "akj advan^ "."" ^°" "" *'''= "''"o"' 
Richard CartwrighT declare ov"^*'/ " '^'^ "''' "°' ^ir 
And when I twitted hta Just a 1 1^," t°'" "«"" ""« «"»'? 
h>» old and beloved ^eil of ""'' °' •"" "l^^'^'ng 
States, he said toL-'Mr{'''T°'i'^ *'**' "^e Unit^ 
out '..fore he is muc"oldef ^af^''' ^t ^°"*' ""^ «"<« 
way round, it is .till the tyo,^ef '•''' '^ ""'"^ '""^-^^ 
United States of America P-'cHeaf heT'™'!.'^ "'* *"« 
There are the three witnesses ;,nH fh I ^""^ '^"Khter.) 
witnesses, for under the tariff ," - "'^^ "=o™" ^'^er the 
nations in the worTd Jut hf r l^ot'"': "'^''^ '"'"^ -"ous 
fate of duty, whilst we S d not it ° • ,° ^"""''" "' =» '^wer 
into any one of those coumrie ".r*'"^'""' "^ our goods 
«Pon the duties they charged m °"\""\ °^ ""='"'on 
Chamberlain said: "UnderTh; *^.^.'="' ^ear.) Then Mr. 
-"le for you to do that if ^o^'^:^ '^'"'1" '* '^ ""Pos- I 
- n,ust give it to the others.Te Z.L'^^^TnZ::^ 

The e .s only one of two things you can do-repeal your 
Ieg.slat.on. or. make your preference good for Great Britain 
alone. Then they were. i„ familiar phrase, on the horns of 
a d.lemma. If.fhey took back their legislation they lost their ,,, j 

They Saved Their Face 

in IX'^r "°*" ' ■'" ";*'^ P^""8^' °^- « the Chinese say 
n order to 'sare Ineir face," they restricted" it entirely to 
Great Bnta.n; and that is how they stumbled into the pre- 
ference. (Hear, hear and cheers.) 

Bearded the Emperor 

on Tl' *'* T°"'^ .^i""' "^'°" 8'^"=" "•'y Canada is now 
on the 1>PS o tfie world was because that they stood up against 
Emperor Wlhelm and defied him to his face-bearded hi 
.n h.s den, so to speak. (Laughter.) They said: "The 
Germans would not give us fair play; they wanted to get into 
our markets at the low rate, and they put up a prohibitive 
tanff aga.nst us, and we conceived the splendidly constructive 
Idea of just them where they hit us, and said to them 
Let us mto your market at even rates, or we will put up the 
dmies upon your goods that come here.'" It was the right 
thmg to do, but. gentlemen, that Government was three years 
... ,t. They did it, and the lips of the world moved 

r.n H '°.^ ' "" °J ^"""^"•" '^^^ *'^'' 'hi"« that makes 
l-anada known on the of the world is, says Sir Wilfrid 
the trans-cont.nental railway, the Grand Trunk Pacific, this 
newest baby of all, born out of due season. (Laughter ) 
Now, really, gemlemen, I read the foreign press as you do 
1 have not noticed any extensive perturbation or excitement 
over the b.rth of this latest baby. Have you? I doubt ex- 
ceedingly .fm the newspapers, in business, or in court circles in 
t-urope .ts advent has produced more than a passing commem 
By some of fancy the Premier imagines that his bant- 
ling is the envy and talk of the world. It has produced 
some excicement here in Canada, but abroad in Asia, Africa 
h„rope and America I scarcely think a ripple has been made 


But h f r ""'• ■^••' "•••on. 

reasons £% . wtl/nVS '""'"' ''"' ^"' '- °thc 
he has a good .n,enK .i,'";!:"};. -''■ "e .s not d.;i 
known on the lips of u>e world aL'n"fh ""' '"^"^ ^^""''^ 
admiration of the world wrs he comlft T'"^"^"''"" ""<) 
continental railway, THE CANAmit""."^ "^* «^^' '"ns- 
WAV, in >«s6_(Appla,re)I^.^ ^'^ PACIFIC RAIL- 
o[ a line of steamsh JT cCtT;^ '" ""= "'^"lishmen, 
advertisement of that railway wLTI' ""'^''^' '"^'"'^''^ 
"- r-ondon for Yokohan.a and ZIk '^""''^ "«= «o'd 

stnu,,n, colonies, via the all thr u*^^ ""^ "'"^ ^"^ "'e Au- 
of the iinest lines of iLn.^'Xf ,£■;;''- ^'e. on one 
f Cheers., <„. yo„ ,„ean to say tint t h ,, ,""'''' P"''"^^'' 
"' other countries? It ,va, the "'J ''"' "" ^""^eqnence 

Wilfrid f„r^.„ that. WhyT "" "' "'^' '^•"rld, sir. Sir 

There °*"*'** *"*'**'« ^oer War 

imagi,rL"iVn"c«°telove°'' t^ful'rfr'' " ""'' """ ' 
^.ylesworth for bringing up tl,e s^ . , o ' unseasoned Mr. 

he might have said, that o' of h' '''' "°' '''' ^^at 

■n making Canada known o the w ''m"''' "'''""Mentalities 
ho- 's of the „,ost intimat and fHenH,' '"'."^"■"'"^ her in 
member of the British EmolV "'^'""'"^ ^'"^ <^very 

t? the action of her brave v'', T ^"^"^'''^ =>«'—- 
Empire in far-distant A wd nTT'Z'" ''^f'"« "^ *e 
that keen, >vhite, vivid flame of hurt "^'"'^ ^'"- *hen 
'h.s country from the Pacific ,o,hV?'"°"™ ''^^P' °-" 
;t warmed the inner cords of th.\ ^"""'"^ '" ^ "^°ment 
The very .noment that o r Lin seffo °' '"/ "'""^ ^^P'-- 
m.le journey, and afterwards^n th ^ "^ °" 'heir 7,000- 

t-ns of Africa showed themrelve: t?"! '''""^ '"' """'"- 
o the most seasoned troops Tn^ k^' ^^ ''"^^ *he equals 
Biory. with valor, and fine adaotio"""/,'' ?" '°"«'" -''h 
Canada s nan.e. well spoken of b"f~^'""' eheers)-then 
'--"e. B„,„,4^.^^^_he^e,_^,_^^^^ 


you forgotten .t? Let me refresh your memory. In that 
fateful year of 1899 things happened. The dnnger grew close 
and closer to the point of outbreak. More and more om n 
ous lowered the clouds. From July to September 3 "h 
colony after colony,' dependency after dependency, by wire 
andlh •; ' ^""^™^^''">- — «e, proffered their troops' 
tie fit ,TT '° ""= ^"'"^ Government to help .ave 
from July to September 30th? Her Government, dumb as 

1 f^- ^^" .'^■°'-'' f'-°"' Ottawa, until the 4th of October 

Hashed over every wire n Canada- "w. i, ■ 

.„ , , <.-anaaa. vve have no author tv 

o sen, roops out of Canada; our volunteers are meant o J 
for the defence of Canada itself; besides that, we have no 
appropr,at.on, and therefore we cannot respond." He closed 
h,s mouth ; he closed the doors of his Cabinet, and w ith that pr , 

Ch cago to speak for some society i„ the City of Chicago 
But, s,r, those w.res had not ticked off this message to the 
outermost parts of our country before they grew hotter fi ed 
wth return messages. The Mayor of almost every 'i.yn 
Canada municipal bodies, boards of trade, indignant individ 
uals, md.tary authorities, bombarded Ottawa whh tl.eir tele- 
fir' °.: '"'*'«"^"' remonstrance. I was in the City of St 
John, attendmg a great banquet at that time. \t that 

Taid '"That f •■ ^^''17- '' ""' '•"'■ '^ French-Canad,::, 
I sad. That decision of S,r Wilfrid Laurier's will not stand 
m th,s coun ry. He will have to allow the volunteers to go 
or he w,ll have to vacate the seats of power in Ottawa." 

Hear, hear and loud cheers.) Then things became warm 
Oh, my fnends, I would like you to have seen into t^e 
mner workings of that Cabinet about that time. Tarte you 

(Laughter.) About that fme I imagine that would 
scarce y express the mtensity of the fighting that was goins 
on (Laughter.) The outcome of if waf that T^eflhe 


people of this country aimed their gun. steady, strong, true 
with the,r hand on the trigger, the coon came down. ^Gr«t' 
aughterj The volunteers were allowed to go, Z then t" 
force and strength and power of the sentiment of ^e co^u^ 
surged up agamst the will and the decision of Sir Wilfrid 
Launer, overpowered it, cli.uigcd it, and the Unadian soldiers 
were sent, and they fought with their brothers from every chme 
on the plains and m the mountains of Africa for the British 
flag which <n that part of our dominions was then threatened. 
(Hear hear and cheers.) That made Canada known- 
warned the Empire's foes, and flooded the Empire's friends 

bZ"l: ^:T- ^"' ^^ '^"'"'' "'" "°' -^ -"-^h care fo 
bring up that as a reason. Why? 

The N«w Pad 

Now, gentlemen, for the third reason and the last one 
he gave the Grand Trunk Pacific Railway. I confess 
at once that .t .s the most difficult thing in the world to take 
that complex railway scheme, with its enactments, its provi- 
sions Its amendments, and bring before an audience in a 
short space of time an adequate and at the same time lumi- 
noijs statement of the case. I will try, however, to give yoi, 

said to be necessary, and to state the results which are likely 
to come from >t if it ever is realized. First, what is it? 

Th« Kastern SMstion 

The Government of Canada proposes to build and pay 
all the money for a section of railroad 1,900 miles long run- 

tT^thrr. "?"»,'" ""= ^^"^""^ °f New Brunswick, up 
to the City of Winnipeg. That 1,900 miles of rail- 

t^hfr"^ ! back country of New Brunswick and through 

up to the City of Winnipeg, is all to be built and paid tor b; 
the Govemtnent. The cost of that nobody can certainly 
sa> because the surveys have not been made, and the condition 
of the country is absolutely unknown so far as railroad con- 
struction ,s concerned. No one can say exactly what the 

cost will be, but it will not altogether be less than $117,000,000 
That $117,000,000 is made up in this way. It is the first cost 
of the road at $40,000 per mile, plus the interest on the money 
during construction time which is paid out of capital, and 
so has to be provided; plus the ten years' period after its 
completion that the Government hands it over to the Grand 
Trunk Pacific and pays the interest on the cost. Add these 
three items together and you have $117 '" Of that all 
but $5,000,000 is hard cash. No credits, no promissory notes 
about that; it is hard cash. And yet, do you believe it, though 
this is only a part of the cost of the Grand Trunk Pacific 
contributed by the Government, Sir Wilfrid l.aurier and Mr. 
Wm. Paterson both have said before their audiences that the 
whole scheme will cost this country only $14,000,000. 

The New Faklra 

The days of the magicians are not past. (Laughter.) 
Away out on the high table lands of India the Indian juggler 
will do wonderful things. He will seat himself on a cement 
platform, dried seven times by the indignant rays of the burn- 
ing sun of India. He will set himself there, and all at once 
by his magic arts he will make a palm tree grow out of that 
cement, unfold its leaves and branches beautifully green, and 
the birds will sing in its branches, and a spring of living pure 
water will swell up from its roots. (Laughter.) That is 
what an Indian fakir will do. (Laughter.) But, my friends, 
that is absolutely trivial compared with what the Hon. William 
or Sir Wilfrid will do. (Laughter.) He will sit right down 
m that chair and he will say, "I will build a line 
of railway. The mortar for it, 'he rails for it, the ties for 
It, the filling for it, the excavation for it, all of the things 
that are necessary for it, will all cost $117,000,000 for 
the first 1,900 miles; but I, on my solid cement platform, dry 
as the dust oi ages, will put down $14,000,000 and behold 
it will swallow up the $117,000,000, and the whole cost 
will be wiped off." (Uughter.) Now, Hon. William, sit 
down there, and put your $14,000,000 on the corner of that 

!::-■ ! 

talile. I w,ll l>,. y„„r contractor an<l I will coinmcnce that 
roa.l. l-irst, I want my surveyors, and I get my surveyors 
an< put my parties out. and at great expenn.— a million or two 
millions of dolltri, I don't know how much yet— I will survey 
that whole line from Montton up to Winnipeg, and I will 
come in with the bills, and a part of your cash goes out, Mr 
Paterson. say $a,00(),0(M); that leaves you $12.00().000 But I 
have not commenced to build yet. Then I go out and I make 
my contracts from one end of the line to the other-nine-mile 
sections, ten-mile sections, twenty-mile sections-teams are 
hired, machinery is got, great steam shovels are bougKt an 
army of men go to work, and for the whole period of' ten 
years wc will be as busy a. nailers and every year—divide 
6 into 112—1 will want some $20,000,000. The first year I 
have expended $20,000,000 in hard cash, and I want that out 
ot your little treasury back there. Mr. Paterson. Now. that is 
not quitejair. you say; you took two millions away from me 
before, and only left me twelve, and now you ask for twenty 
I am already eight millions short." The cement platform 
does not seem to work this time. (Uughter.) But. Hon. 
William. I will come back next year for another 20 millions 
and the year after for another 20 millions, and so 
on until I bleed you for 112 millions. Can you get it 
out of that 14 millions? Shall I call the Indian fakir to your 
aid? You can't put the 14 millions out at interest, for I want 
It now. Oh, well, there is no use talking about it There 
never was such a fake statement made in the wide world 
».,.^''*""'^"'^ "'^^^ ^y rfo"- William Paterson and Sir 
\V.lfrid Laurier that the thing will only cost this count, y 
$14000.000. The fact is you must put up $112,000,000 hard 
cash for the l.noo miles, and you can only get it by borrow- 
ing it, every dollar of it. and adding it every dollar to the 
public debt, and taking from the people of this coumry every 
year $4,000,000 to carry it. Nor is that the end. That 1900 
miles of road built by the Government must, after completion 
have ,ts yearly additions and betterments for each vear of the 
.^0 years of the lease to the Grand Trunk Pacitic. Ihc 

Government must provide every dollar of it. In ilO years the 
betterments will cost more than the original cost. But taking the 
low figure there is at least another $1 12,00<),«N) to be provided. 
This sum must be borrowed, and every dollar ot" it added to 
the public debt. True, the interest thereon up to three per 
cent, is to be sought from the Grand Trunk Pacilic, but that 
does not alter the fact that the capital has to be got, and the 
country has to get it. And yet they try to gull the people with 
the idea that they can take $14,000,000 and offset the cost of 
tlftt railway. Now, that is not all of it; that is only the 
eastern section. 

Punch and Judy 

The Grand Trunk Pacific is a most wonderful thing. Did 
you ever see a Punch and Judy show? (Laughter.) No 
doubt you have. You know how wonderfully these little things 
work, don't you ? They bob up anc. make their bow and they 
bob down again, and they kiss each other and they bite each 
other and they go on in a most amusing way, until you would 
declare they were the most active little crea'ures that you ever 
saw in your life. Just accidentally you happen to turn the 
corner of your eye around to the rear. You will see a great big, 
fat, large-bodied man; he is pullini? something and every 
time he pulls, those little chaps bob up and kiss each other 
and bite each other, and ta'k to each other. That is Punch 
and Judy. (Great laughter.) Now, sir, the Grand Trunk 
Pacific is the marionette. You would think it was awfully 
alive; it is absolutely as dead as a door nail. The big fat 
man behind it is the Grand Trunk, which pulls the strings and 
wires and controls the whole thing— puts in just enough to 
secure the mechanism, takes all the profits, but is careful to 
let the Government make its contract with Punch and Judy. 
(Laughter and cheers.) Look that contract through from be- 
ginning to end; there is not an article in it that binds the 
Grand Trunk Pacific to do anything except the one simple 
thini? of guaranteeing $14,300,000 worth of bonds. That is all. 
Tha^ i. "vcrjthing; ail liie rest of that contract between the 
Governi. lit and Punch and Judy. (Laughter.) 

Th« Pralrl* SMtlon 

Now, commencing at Winnipeg, the Grand Trunk Pacific 
builds the prairie section of 1,000 miles, through what? The 
garden of Canada. They sometimes tell yojt that the object 
of this road is to open up new territory. Now, be fair. Sir 
Wilfrid, I have your map; I have the delineation of that line 
from Moncton clear to the coast, and I want to tell you people 
what is absolutely true, that for 1,000 miles west, beginning 
at Winnipeg, they don't go through undeveloped territoiy, 
they go winding in and winding out between the territory 
which is now served and crossed and penetialed by the Can- 
adian Northern and the Canadian Pacific Railways. Along 
through that fertile belt, which is being served already by 
those two lines, which, of course, will be served better by a 
third — no one objects to that. When they tell you that it is 
to open up new country in the Northwest, it is not to open up 
a bit of undeveloped country; it is simply to add another 
railway to a country which is as level and as fertile almost 
as a garden. What does Sir Wilfrid Laurier himself say? 
What does Sir Charles Rivers- Wilson, president of the road, 
say to his shareholders when he is urging the matter through ? 
'Every mile that you complete west of Winnipeg, for 1,000 
miles, will pay just as soon as each ten-nnie .' fifty-miie 
section is ready to be run; there is the stuff to carry both 
in and out ; there are the settlers, there is the developed 
country.' Now, then, for that thousand miles the Govern- 
ment guarantees bonds to the extent of $13,000 per mile. 
That is, $13,000,000 of credit, over and above this 112 millions 
of hard cash that they lend. To whom? The Grand Trunk 
Railway? No, but to Punch and Judy — (laughter) — the 
Grand Trunk Pacific. That is what that amount will be. 

The Mountain 8«otlan 

Then comes the mountain section, five hundred miles, 

running through to the Pacific, and that, Sir Rivers-Wilson 

says, will cost $56,000 a mile. Mr. Borden counts it at $50,000. 

There is $25,000,000. Add the interest on the cost of con- 


itruction, which hu to be a led to the capital, and it make* 
$18,000,000. Three-fourths ot that the Government guaran- 
tee! by its bonds. Three-fourths of $28,000,000 will make 
you $21,000,000. Then they give besides, to Punch and Judy 
—(laughter)— as a free gift, the interest upon the mountain 
section for seven years after completion, which, added to the 
other, makes about $38,000,000. So that 38 millions 
of dollars of credit and bom! , and 112 millions of 
dollars of cash, and $3,000,000 Quebec Bridge bonds, are the 
sums which are provided by the Government in this im- 
mense construction which is proposed. The Grand Trunk 
puts in a guarantee of bonds to the extent of $14,500,000, and 
it and the Government are partners. The mountam section 
will take about seven years to build, the eastern section eight 
or ten, and the prairie section will likely be completed in two 

An Aeeommodatins Ck»v«rnm«nt 

Now, what happens? As soon as the Winnipeg section 
is begun, the Government has undertaken to commence from 
Winnipeg and build eastward, towards North Bay. Mr. 
Bole, the Liberal candidate in Winnipeg, stated on the plat- 
form in Winnipeg the other night, with Mr. Sifton by his 
side, that he was informed by the Goveimnent — and they might 
rely on the information— that the very first building would 
be from Winnipeg towards the east, so as to get down along 
to Thunder Bay— that is, to Port Arthur, for lake communica- 
tion, and to North Bay, the terminus of the Grand Trunk 
Railway, for land connection. Now, as the Grand Trunk 
Pacific builds the prairie section and gathers its inland product 
for exports, this will result: 

Wher* the Qrand Trunk Oom«» In 

If the Government section down to Thunder Bay and 

North Bay is not finished, and until it is finished, the Grand 

Trunk will take the imloadings of the Grand Trunk Pacific 

a'. Winnipeg, and by its United States connections which ', 


has It will carry them down through Chicago and southern 
Ontario on its present lines, and to its terminus at Portland. 
That is where it carries its export freight now. Portland 
is its ocean terminus ; there it has spent $20,000,000, and it is 
by hundreds of miles the nearest ocean port. That is the route 
by which it carries now. That is the route by which it will 
carry then. Then, as the section from Winnipeg eastward, 
under construction by the Government, comes down opposite 
to Thunder Hay and North Bay, the Grand Trunk will build 
branches to tap it from Port Arthur and from North Bay. 
Then the (Jrand Trunk will make connection at Port Arthur 
by the lakes in summer and in'winter by their own lines at 
North Bay. There is a complete connection for the Grand 
Trunk Railway. The president tells his shareholders thai 
as soon as the Grand Trunk Pacific is ready to bring freights 
from the West into Winnipeg, the Grand Trunk is ready 
lo receive them and to supply the G. T. P. with return freights 
from the east. This it will do until the G. T. P. gets down 
to Thunder Bay, 300 miles, when the exchange will take 
place there, or down to North Bay, 900 miles, when exchange 
can also take place there. Thus, in the course of three or 
four years, the Grand Trunk Railway will have a complete 
new Ime of communication into the Northwest, opened through 
the medium of Punch and Judy by the contributions of the 
Canadian Government, and without any appreciable expense 
to itself, and the Grand Trunk will enjoy all the beneilts of the 
rich commerce in and out that is created by that thousand 
miles of railway building in the prairie country. 

That is where the Grand Trunk comes in. And this great 
advantage it will enjoy certainly until the whole eastern sec- 
tion of 1,900 miles is completed. When at the end of eight or 
ten years the 1,900 miles is finished by the Government, it 
hands it over for seven years rent free, and for three years 
more rent free, to the extent that the net surplus falls short 
of .-! per cent, on the cost of the section. After this for forty 
years the G. T.P. is to pay a rental of :i per cent, per annum 


No Sacurity 

So good a lawyer as Mr. Aylesworth has said, at Durham, 

" The contract for the Kastern portion provides that for the 
term of operation th'. Government is not only to own the road, 
but ,t ,s to be pa,d a mtal equivalent to 3 per cent, on its cost. 
Ihe Oovernment is p a position to borrow money at a lower 
rate than that, :■■-• J,;;i ii,e Covernnient will own the road-that 
.s the Eastern s- i iion-i„ per,;, tuity and have an income from it 
greater than th. <-i .' oi the n niey." 

He is wront 1 ■ -r The itioney will cost Canada, taking 
discount and the like into consideration, more than 3 per cent , 
paid half-yearly, and all that the Grand Trunk Pacific pays 
in rental is a bare 3 per cent, yearly on the sum required to 
build it. But let that go. Mark this: 

"And that income on the Eastern section will be secured by 
a mortgage on that part constructed by the company (that is by 
the Grand Trunk Pacific .Company). A more businesslike 
bargain in that respect it would be difficult to find." 

Now, there is a statement of a very able lawyer. I take 
it upon myself to contradict it, not because I am a better 
lawyer than Mr. Aylesworth, for I am not a lawyer at all, 
but simply because Mr. Aylesworth has not, I believe, read 
both the contracts. By last year's contract— (hear, hear)— 
a mortgage was held on the part constructed from 
Wmnipeg west as security for the rentals and terms named 
m the contract for the eastern section. In 1904 that was 
amended, and to-day there is not a shadow of a lien on all 
that road from Winnipeg to the Pacific for anything which 
may not be done or any default in interest which may take 
place on all that eastern section from Winnipeg down to 
Moncton. (Hear, hear and cheers.) I will tell you more. 
When the Grand Trunk Pacific has built its road from the 
Pacific to Winnipeg and the Government has finished the 
eastern section from Moncton to Winnipeg, and the (^vern- 
ment comes to the Grand Trunk Pacific and says, "Come, 
now, execute your lease for taking over this road and run- 
ning it at a .•) per cent, rental for 50 years," the Grand Trunk 

them Z V" "• """^ ">"' '^ "° P°*" '° ^""'P^l 

hem, there .s no hen, good, bad or indifferent, upon all 

for their fa. ure to enter ,nto the contract for running that 
road on the lease principle. * 

Who Q«ta the Freight 7 

fro^W^ "' the position of things. The Government builds 
trom Winnipeg down opposite to Thunder Bay and North Bay 
The very moment that is built, by the amended contract the 
Grand Trunk Pacific has the right to lease that portion as far 
as It IS constructed. What happens then ? The Grand Trunk 
Pacific drams the far west along its road; brings down all 
^» route freight to Port Arthur or to North Bay. and th 
Grand Trunk, with its present system, stands ready at hs 
stations or by its feeders-its arms reaching out at CoHing 
wood, M^ford Goderich, all along the lakef-to take fr ght 
and give freight to and fro. Then if ever the whole Govefn- 
ment section becomes finished down to Moncton and is put 
"tt th?f'° ""^ Grand Trunk Pacific, there is n hfng 

T unk Pacifi."'. ~™r°' ''^ '"'"''''' ^'"''•"8 the Grand 
Trunk Pacific to send its western freight down over that 
section to Moncton, and so to the Canadian seaports-nothing 

to Ha^faf or ; "%:■ Vf"- *" '° ^° ''^ -^y °f Montreal 
to Halifax or to St. John," it has to be so carried but for 

of he Grand Trunk Pacific to deliver it to whom 
;t wishes, and as it is absolutely controlled by the Grand 

IcTL'l "a' "f'" ''= """'^ °^ " '° '•'^ Grand Trunk 
(Cheers.) Another strange thing is this: The lease is for 
fifty year. During the term of lease for ao years th: Govern 
aTd h . w •'° *■"" "' I«"=°'°ni='' trains to V/innipeg 
west -Tha. r^r"'' '" ■■"""'"« "^"''^ f-" Winnipeg 
■fa the end of 50 years the Government determines to take 
over the eastern section and run it, then the Grand Tru^ 

Pacific has the right by the terms of this contract to 50 years 
more of running rights over whatever portion of the Govtrn- 
ment roa( they need to give connection with the Grand Trunk 
system on the lakes and at North Bay; but the Government 
gets no equivalent running rights over the road west of 
Winnipeg. Do you see how nicely that works for the Grand 
Trunk? For all this enormous expenditure of cash and 
credit three reasons are .^iven by Sir Wilfrid Laurier: 

A Political Necessity 

"/* ts a political necessity for Canada to have a line of 
railway from the west to the Maritime Province ports, every 
Itch of which is on Canadian soil." Why? Because the 
United States may abrogate the bonding privileges. If they 
do, he says, we are at their mercy, and the only way we can 
save ourselves is to have this line built, every inch on Can- 
adian territory. Gentlemen, what will you think when I tell 
you that for the last ten years, yes, since 1886, we have had 
railway communication from the waters of the Pacific down 
to Halifax and St. John, every hour of every day of every 
year, and every inch of it upon Canadian soil. (Hear, hear.) 
And if the bonding arrangements during any one of those 
years had been swept away by the United States, we would 
have had an all-sufficient and ready route down through our 
own country to our own ports, and we could not have been 
cut oti. (Applause.) But is there any dreau just now that the 
bonding privileges may be cut off? None. There never was 
a better understanding of the value of those privileges to th» 
United States by the people of the United States than exists 
to-day, never a better mutual understanding between the two 
countries. It was simply a forced reason for a hasty action, 
and there was no political necessity on that score. Nor is it 
a military necessity. This would mean that you want the rail- 
way farther off from the American border. But this new 
railroad is yet closer to the State of Maine than the Inter- 
colonial Railway, and would be nearer to the enemies of the 
country, if we are ever to have an enemy there. So that 
reason does not hold. 

A Oommercial Necessity 

Then he says: 'It is a commercial necessity becauso 
here ,s tl^ Northwest, and it is actually famishinrforTm 

en L";. T"-^- '^o" " '"" ^="^'' ''^^ Catalan No h- 
carry all the goods for that country, and carry them wel 
Ihe great akes system is their aid in the summer "ea'o' 
In the wmter season or in the summer, the one line of the 
Canadian Pacfic can carry four times what it is carry ,t 
0-day on ,ts smgle track, and do it easily; ,o the railway mc^ 
say, and they ought to know. (Applause.) Anyway no one 

northwest. That would give a third route. Now, what is his 
h.rd reason? The development of new count y hav 

already shown you that this line develops no new country 
m the west. But they say: "We want to develop a new 
back country ,n Ontario and Quebec, and in New Brunswick" 
No one says nay to that; but, gentlemen, before you enter 

"notT .7 ""'"''^ '"' '"°""°"' expenditures 
't not the part of common sense that you should explore hat 

n^rto'aT'l ""' °"^ "'^"'" ''^ <=°"'"'*°- "^ "--We : 
not to a railway, and to what kind of a railway? (Cheers.) 

No Survey-No Information 

h-AZ' "v ^ 77'*'" ** book in saying that there never 

countr l"l f""""' ""^"^ ^"^^^'"S -""de on that back 
country the of getting an east and west line clear 
away down to Moncton. Fugitive surveys in parts have been 
made; but, s,r. would it not have been the part of prudenc 
for any business Government to have said: "We believe that 
a Ime should be built back there; we are not quite surlwh - 
ther .t should be a link line east and west, or whether that 

ZnTo t""^ v"^'"^" '' """ ^""""-« "-^b -<. -uth 
of that JrT •^""'"^ """"^ 0"""^'=' ''""«'"8 'he produce 
WecnlwT,. the centres of manufacture and of trade. 
We cant tell that unfl we survey it. If it is to be a through 
Ime for wheat ann produce from the west, it must b a line 

o{ certain grades and curves, and not longer than present lines. 
It the grades are difficult and the length too great, it is an 
absolute commercial impossibility, because in that case you 
cannot carry traffic either way in competition with the com- 
bined rail and water routes farther south. But, sir, they did 
not wait for surveys. Sir Wilfrid Laurier went into the 
library and fished out the story of a good old priest, who two 
liundred years ago went up through that country, stopping in 
spots and giving fugitive descriptions of it. On the 18th of 
a June, about two hundred years ago, he found a place where 
roses were blooming, where the air was balmy, and where 
there was no night. The long twilight came, and before it 
darkened faded out into the splendor of a rising sun. On a 
talc- of two hundred years ago, written by a missionary whose 
last thoughts were of a national transportation, he predicates 
the possibilities of that country as an agricultural country, 
with climate and soil to produce sufficient to make a railway 
profitable. Now, sir, after they have made the contract they 
are sending out their surveyors. Would it not have been the 
part of prudence to find out what the country was like first, 
and then to build such railways as are adapted to the kind 
at country, its conditions and its possibilities? (Cheers.) 

Trade Throush National Ports 

But there is another reason, says Sir Wilfrid. What is 
that? Because it is absolutely necessary to draw the traffic 
of the great west through our own country and to our own 
seaports. I have shown you how they do it. They have found 
three-fourths of the money to build a railway from Winnipeg 
to the Pacific. They have built outright a connection for it 
down to Thunder Bay and North Bay and on to Moncton. 
If ever they take it over and work the eastern section them- 
selves, they are bound to give a lease and running rights down 
as far as Thunder Bay and North Bay in order that the 
Grand Trunk may pick up and make its connections at these 
points. The Grand Trunk is not a line which serves Canadian 
ports. In summer it serves Montreal and Quebec to a certain 


■n sfiorter time and with l«7.!n ^ J ''' "'^ "^' ="' ' said, 
to Canadian ports. And , asm >.'' "'^ ^""''^ ''y S^ins 
Pacific nor tl,e Grano "vnnt Ir. ^' '"' '^'""^ '^^"n' 
Pena..>. to .onte their freight virCaldr^^.r''"'™" "^ 

Th.Qe„e.,.ofr the Scheme 

Gral°\rfcr; to ^00' ^°" ^■"'" ^^ "---''• The 
"We want a charter to buiMr™'M '" ''''-' =""<< ''''id 
Winnipeg and into tha grea westTn !"''' .^'' "■™''«'' '" 
'o ^ive us a reasonable subs dyfor th. ^'^ ^^ "'" ''^'^ ^O" 
for the section between North Bay and V^°""'"" ^^"'°" ^"'^ 
enter ,nto an arrangement w th v™ ^"""P^e- and we will 
■nent, to hand over to thi Tn t ?' ^7 "^'''"able arrange- 
'hat we bring down out o tha co° 7 ^"!."^^ ""= ^^'^''^ 
real, and in that way we w^ h. ''' " '^' P°" °f M°nt- 
>o" will get the western Tr d th'r ' H^ "'° ""= ^"'' -"^ 
vmce ports," Now, if S r w1 frid ^ ','' ^"'"™ P^" 
Put one straight question ,0 StZZl tl' "°"''' J"^' 
honor, Sir Wilfrid, when the drandT ^ ""' ^ "°" ^""^ 
Pos.tion to you, were you not hear^fv T"" """^' '"^^ P^"" 
you not tell them so?" Tha Itl'' '" ''™'' °^ '"' ^"^ did 
h-m. I don't know whether hi "'',3"'^'"°" I would put to 
the bottom of my hla t.^^X;^:^ t^--,- "ot, but m 
believe that if he gave me a frTnt?" ""^'"^ I have, I 
Why should he L have sa d so"T" *"= "°"''^ ^''^ "Y"" 
a- going to give you t e genesi's ofV^ " T """'' ' 
"'oment .t was mooted that tl,e G and Tr, J°'"'- '"'' ""^ 
■ts connections and its capital to t M ^^ """' '^'"^^ ^''h 
great west and from wLn 1 ! "'''' * '°*d through the 
of the Quebec con^'ge"! "oTIr w7f h" t"" ^^'^^ ««^i" 
h.m and said: "That won't do "t !^"^^ '°"°""' <=-""' 'o 
road stopping at Ontario porl th ; T"' ^^"^ ""» «"• 
to Quebec, and if we don't get' il7°^,1 "'"^' -««= down 
measure." Sir Wilfrid then ive wa'rnr ""' '"T" '°"' 
iSive way to pressure— he always 

does— and said, "Well Wt i» ™„ j 

J*." -.^h i„»,„? ii -Mrir .T s?""te" 

o. definite information upon which he could has- thrbuild 

Tbet e^:^!^^';'"^ -^ ^^°- ' •'^■-e this^lsot 

I Deiieve it from mformat on wh ch I havp tu^t i. .1 

Grand Trunk talked with Sir mmi\^H~uL::o\t 

r,f. hv ^^ ^ Government or a construction company 

of construction. ^ :^t IZ r^a^ i^^t To tve^i: 

Lrpermi"e"°"°T"^ " ""'^'""^ ^ver/llnr ol 
o the cnT V '' " '°" °" "'^ ^''°'^ ^^"'°". *at you add 
to the cost of construction adds to the cost of the rental that 

thaT So mL" "^ ""'- ''"' '-- ' '^- -se'-ani t' 
The Advent of the Qraftera 

bui^"hV»h' "r ^ TIj;*"' '' ^'' '"°°'*'^ 'hat it was going to be 
bu.It by the Grand Trunk Pacific there was fat in the fife An 

Z Zfr '"' "'*'" ^' ^"-^ *^ --'d-Xe contractors behin! 
he heelers, arose and said: "That will not do. Sir Wilfrid 
there ,s nothmg i„ that for the boy. (Laugh er) 

b^'lTthlt"°ol r '" *;' '°' "^- ^^' ^-^ the Governmtrti 
bm d that portion, and we want the contracts for building it 
section after section, mile after mile"; and again Sir WiJh 

pret,!^ AnZe C.V'^''' ''^' ^^ ^^^^^^ ^ " 
pressure. And the Globe comes out with the joyous announce- 


millions is to be str„i>-<,l.M i °'"^'""'*'- Two hundred 
grafters to lose To dfv rh °° -^""^ " "''"^ ^"^ 'he 

Portunity ofrrIiv:;tV5b"cVtr^^ ""^'■^ " '"' °''- 
get a hand at the contracts hi, ^°''^™">e« : we will 

chance we will have "ut ' ' h^ " °"^"'""- ^' '' "" '''^' 
will back them frw°nners" A /'"".'^r'""'""''' =■"<» - 
own certain knowlere ertain '"'="^'^"^ ""^ '^at to his 
already commenced to b^v.T "T "'"' ''^ "=""« ^avc 
structL onTa pa t o'f th rTd^'nT'?'" '°^ '""^^^ -"" 
Province of New Brunsw ck ll "" . " '^ «° ""'''"K'' ">« 
certain parts are actualTvIt /h ' °""''' "'"' '" Q""'^ 
and contracts are prom ed for c '"h*"' '"^ """'«' °"*' 
are willing to be used I h '°"'"''""°"^' '" ">«" who 
if this thin", goe^oratd h ^af^^^at the'" ^''T "^^' 
the precious commission, which in utttrH « "'"'' *°^'' ""'f" 
decency Sir Wilfrid ^^s^moCtlo'tTi:' ^l ""'?" 
carnival of extravasanrp »,w) • " '"* greatest 

that ever has beei'w" e .ed inTs'^D '"""'"^^ """*"« 
(Cheers.) witnessed in this Dominion of Canada. 

What Doe* the Country Ctot? 

mnitoritd^uirrr 't '"' '''*^' ^-^ -p "^ 

th.. Government'get out of h/m "°" °' '°"''^' ""^^^ "-' 
.section-less than it costs th. f ^" ""'' °" "'^ ^«^'"" 

them close to three Ind a ha fercerr'v'" '^ "'" '=°^' 
'ions on that. What doe, ,rJ„ . , •. ' ""*■**' ^ '°« of mil- 

Forty-fivemiZ 'niCll ?''"^f^^""''^^^'«=^ 
Grand Trunk Pacific. Who g s ^ f " i" "^ '""^^ "y the 

•"ne-tentl.s of (),e cost ;>nH .^ J " """"■>' P"'= "P 
cost, and the other partner, the Grand 


Trunk, puts up the other one-tenth of the cost, and that 
simply in guarantee, isn't it fair that the Government that puts 
up nine-tenths should get some of the profits? Yet, of the 
45 millions of common stock the Government does 'not g« 
a dollar. The Grand Trunk gets 2S millions as reward for 
Its guarantee, and the rest of it no one definitely knows who 
13 to get It; but this much is known, that it is in the absolute 
control of the Grand Trunk Railway, which pulls the string 
which moves P.nch and Judy. (Laughter and applause.) 
Now, sir, what wa.s the alternative? 

If W» Pay For It Let Urn Own It 

They try to make people believe that Liberal-Conservatives 
are opposed to the Grand Trunk entering the Northwest 
Absolutely untrue. There was not a Liberal-Conservative in 
Parliament who would not have held up both hands to help 
the Grand Trunk Railway carry out its original proposition 
and build from Thunder Pay to North Bay, whichever i' 
cliose, into Winnipeg, and out through the West, and would 
have given them a reasonable amount of help in order to 
enable them to do it. But what the Liberal-Conservative 
party objects to is the Government putting up nine-tenths of 
the cost, the other partner putting up one-tenth, and the Gov- 
ernment taking all the risks, and the other partner taking all 
the profits, whatev. those profits may turn out to be. Mr. 
Laurier says: "I am against Government ownership; I am 
against Government operation of railways." He calls those 
misguided people who are in favor of public ownership 
"Populists." Populus means the people— not a bad derivation, 
when you come down to the original meaning. Every one 
of us ought to be proud to be populistic in our sympathies and 
ideas. We spring from the people. We live in the bosom of 
the people. We grow out of the labor and hard toil of the 
people of this country. 

Sir Wilfrid girds at Government owncrsh'p. and adopts 
the cheap argument of fastening the brand of American popu- 

There is much that Sir Wilfrid does 

!ism upon Mr. Borden, 
not seem to know. 

party'in ^^"IhT, '° k "?* '''" ^"'''"^'« ''"<' ^e Liberal 
party m 1873, and after, built and purchased hundreds of milp« 

Pacfi:as"aT°"""' ""' ''"''' '" '^ '^-"' «"« Canadian 
Pacfic as a Government road. Were thev Populists' Was 
not he among them then .' f""-" was 

But .f ,t >s madness for a Government to build and operate 

bought iqA ™;u . Jwontreal, and who, not a month ago, 

Sol Ind ? '°'"' '" ^'^ ^^""^'^i^'' « a cost o 
*800,000 and who proposes to own and operate both I 

Whv^'donT' " ''L '■''" " "'^'" hasfrighte'ned Mr UrUart 
Why don t you know, doesn't everybody know that Mr 
Urquhart has hitherto been red hot in^favo^^ of p^Mic own^r-' 

fo L, "^r °*"'"''"' '°' ^^'"^P''"""- P"i-"c ow,°eTshL 
wJ !r If- °*"""^'P '"^ "'" ='"d 'hat and the other 

pit rw:t^sh pr";rvt::r:oner tT^"' r^^f *^ -^ 

o. the same principll anTiHrnLipI naL^ottrTyt^ 
pubhc ownership, ..either can a Government- aZTJrT 
ernment cannot neither can a municipality But M Lurilr" 
lart" Mr°Url\' f^f " '" ^°" «° '"">' '=- Mr.X 


other great company, and we will put ourselve. i„ the handl 

of one of the biggest monooolies that this country has seen 
in railroad matters." (Hear, hear, and cheers.) 

A Poor Arg^umen't 

Sir Wilfrid Laurier says a Government cannot operate rail- 
ways. Why? Because, he says, you have hid the Intercolonial, 
and you have never made any money out of it. But he goes on 
directly afterwards to say, "That is not the fault of the men 
who manage it, but it is the fault of the system." Who is 
responsible for the system? The Government of the country. 
If the system is vicious, reform it. Mr. Borden states his 
policy, and there is nothing in all his programme that pleases 
me more, and nothinK that I would help him work out more 
heartily than his policy with reference to the Intercolonial 
Railway, the Government railway. If I get into power he says, 
I will take that railway management out of the hands of the 
heelers, out of the hands of the partisans, and I will make 
that a non-partisan business management, and I will make 
the Intercolonial pay, as it undoubtedly will pay, under a non- 
partisan management. (Applause.) 

Borden and Ownership" 

Mr. Borden goes farther, and says that it will be a great 
benefit to this country if this Government owned a trunk line 
of communication from the Atlantic to the Pacific— one great 
trimk line at least, amongst the dozens which in the course of 
time will have their entry into and do their work in that great 
western country, as a balance wheel on rates — (hear, hear^— 
as a regulator of the machinery of nudonal transportation. 
(Applause.) And I will tell <ou here to-night that if it is 
a question between this mad plan of Sir Wilfrid's and its 
construction through and through as a road owned and oper- 
ated by the Government, I will stand by Mr. Borden on his 
plan, rather than take the other. (Loud cheers.) 

Mr. Blair and the Railway 

Mr. Blair was Mr. Laurier's Minister of Railways. Mr. 
Blair had much experience, and when Mr. Laurier brought 

the b«rsp«ch of hi lifi "'"".'" P""'"'"! h. made 

^^ P«ch of hi, |,fe, ,n opposifon to the mad scheme 

proposition iMm.,^;'«Vd:b™Z''.",ll'r '.'""^-K <'^''"'-''' Th« 
»tand for i,. There'i, not„fl« ? ,^ ^he people will no, 
upon the electorate of Ihi, "omH™ ,h». "^,^ ""^ ^™"f ht to bear 
Ihe outrage that i, pro^^d 7 L, '"''"''' ""'«' 'h«n> justify 
(l-oud applause.) P™'»'«<» «<> b' perpetrated upon them." 

It not only mean, the de^ruo.ion of ,h *f"' "^ P"^''"= -"""X- 
^heer. unjustifiable .c,uand:ri"„;,"o7p°^,::'!j„"r;V"'"-'- " '» " 

liave never yet come arrn!/ . , ''^''' observed, but I 

hurriedly, without^dequar/foma.fon'^h """"'"'''''"' 
special skill or knowledj J hnT ' ^ "'" *'"'°"' 
■n 'he country, without a r;q:t from"' ''T"' "■'^""'°" 


laboring under ftron^g ex^ctm^m; e'Tcl fms '".wr ' tltt'^""' 

and Europe whfd; wiU Iha r"th " h' '=°'""= '" ""^ ^"""'^^ 

'--• Produc'tive o;^h:'diSrl eVu^nt •■ 1l '''""''\^"' 
It come.") What idle B„^h i „^''"^""'-, (A voice— "Let 


to say: "You cannot judge now, because this iIiIuk is done, 
and, if you break it up, crash will (jo everything financial in 
this country and in Great Britain " Gentlemen, we will be 
sensible. Suppose it were announced to-night that this con- 
tract with the Grand Trunk Pacific had fallen through, and 
that the Grand Trunk Railway was back to it' md proposition 
to build a line from North Bay to Winnipeg and out to the 
coast for a reasonable subsidy, and would make an arrange 
ment with us at Montreal to transfer through freight for 
Halifax and St. John in the winter season. Would anything 
liitrst? (Laughter.) Would any bank shut its doors ? Would 
any great financial institution go crash? Would the London 
stock markets close up to prevent a panic? And would Wall 
Street go into retirement for a brief season until the shock 
ahated? Why, what absolute gush and idle talk for ;i 
Cabinet Minister. But I will tell you. Mr. Patcrson. and 1 
will tell you, Sir Wilfrid, one thing. I do know something 
about finance. I do know something about money markets . 
and I do know that when, as Minister of Finance, I had ti • 
make a loan of $20,000,000, T had to very carefully study 
the market, and I had to take the very best advice of the 
very best financiers on the other side, the question of condi- 
ticns was uppermost. The result of a loan fixes the measure 
of our credit; it is the test of our credit. The amount re- 
qiiired, the purpose, and the nWigatioii incurred, all these arc 
I. ' . My examined. These men jauntily run into the raising 
vi u. . hundred and twenty millions of dollars in hard cash 
Oil the markets of the world with the credit of Canada, and do 
it as lightly as you would eat your Scotch porridge in the 
morning. (Laughter.) To them it is no more serious ap- 
parently, than is the task of a maid milliner when she twirls 
and curls a feather about the bonnet of her lady patron. But 
that one hundred and twenty million is not all. Whilst you 
are asking from the markets one hundred and twelve mil- 
lions of cold cash, you also go into the markets with the 
thirty-eight millions of bonds, the guaranteed bonds 
for the prairie and mountain sections, and besides 

thing for a country like TamH, ? t> I * "*'" 

ot appreciation of it k^ »u eviaent lack 

(Hear h«rT T J^^ ' *"*'" *'='°" '" '^is mad drama 
IHear, hear.) I make you no prophecy of ill but I .J^lt 

he road T i'" v l" '''^ ^'=''" '*"= •'«'™'» n L'l,;""^ 

tprettrteCuarth: SiSSti°;^ehr'' n' '° 

seen, will be over $100,000,000 fn cash ' '""' '"'^' 


Conservative party. (Hear, hear and loud cheer the aud" 
ence rising and cheering for the candidate.)